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A clue to JUSQU'AUBOUTISTE.
112 comments were received for this competition (from 17 competitors, 1 other)
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Comments on the competition
1.
A pretty good effort and lots of unexpected variety!
2.
Chambers 11th edition only gives jusqu'auboutiste as a noun, not an adjective, which would appear to rule out several of the clues, but I feel I should give them the benefit of the doubt. I suspect the anagram software has been working full tilt on this one. (Guilty!)
3.
Some really good clues this month and a few worthy of big marks in my opinion. This makes it hard on those others which are good but I can't give points to.
4.
I know the intended audience has a wide vocabulary but I do feel that definitions of unusual words need to be accurate enough to confirm that the answer seemingly given by the wordplay is the correct one. I especially disliked 'radical' (used in, I think, three clues) as a definition.

A good mixed bag of anagrams, some rather inventive leading to nicely misleading surface readings.
5.
A lot of iffy definitions here – some adjectives rather than nouns, and it seems that extremism or radicalism is seen by some as being one who carries onto the end (rather than one who might have extreme or difffering views). Chambers doesn't appear to agree. Didn't appear to be a lot of scope for the imagination, hence many anagrams.
 
Comments on the clues
1. A bouquet is just not in order for this Gallic hardliner.
1.Unfortunately the anagram needs an extra U. The author probably realised that too late to change it – bad luck.
2.Not an anagram – missing U
3.need 4 'u's for anagram to work
4.Not an anagram
5.The anagram fodder needs a fourth U to work
6.I think you're missing a u.
7.Faulty anagram.
8.You are missing a 'u'…..
9.Short and neat
10.Anagram faulty (should be interesting to see how many voters fail to spot it!)
2. A bouquet is just thrown to embody the start of union – I'll be committed to the end!
1.Clever juxtaposition of start and end – my favourite clue here.
2.Like the way the surface exploits the anagram
3. A diehard boxer whose aim is to outjab us, quiet us…
1.Where is the anagrind?
2.nice working of the anagram but not sure the surface can stand the word boxer
3.Nice anagram, but I don't understand how 'boxer whose aim is to' is an anagram indicator.
4.It seems to me that 'boxer whose aim is to' has no role in the definition or wordplay, and there is no anagram indicator
5.I don't understand how "boxer whose aim is" can be an anagrind?
4. A keen contestant's due to fight one in difficult quest to secure gold
1.what's the TO doing? due TO <> legal right / TO fight <> bout
2.I like the Olympic themed surface but I don't think I'd have much joy as a solver working out the complex wordplay
5. A unique US job Titus removes in changing Gaulist hard line policy (15)
1.You defined jusqu'auboutisme! (and who's Titus?)
6. Almost fair, you heard about quarterly amateur fight; site changed by one who carries on to the bitter end
1.… and what's the BY for?
2.Clue seems fair, but quite wordy and complex with an uninspiring surface
3.Not a flowing surface.
7. Beauty centre-cum-boutique's just about to be one with a no-delivery policy
1.A bit clumsy but better than some
2.Where did you find this definition?
3.I don't understand this definition.
8. Boy Jack's quietus, year gone and beginnings of an unusually unhappy time – dreadful for one like Harry Lauder?
1.Overly obscure definition, and fairly clumsy construction
2.Clunky surface and the definition is a real stretch.
3.To my mind, this is too long and complex to be a suitable clue – but it was fascinating to read!
9. Did Jesus quit, about to embrace universal suffering?…He carried on to the bitter end.
1.why the DID?
2.I don't think 'did' has any role in the cryptic reading.
10. Endless queue is just about moving – that's extremely unlikely to change.
1.Shame, I think you defined jusqu'auboutisme – should be 'one extremely unlikely to change'
2.Seems this anagram led to the best clues. I think 14 was slightly superior though.
3.Nice, and worth a point. My only concern is that I feel the definition should refer to a person.
11. Endless queue is just about formed – I'll go to the end.
1.Good clue and worth points but bettered I feel by 14
2.Short and to the point. Like it.
3.Not bad – 'go on to the end' would be a better def.
4.Great clue, better definition than 10 but I'm not sure how one gets to the end of an endless queue!
12. "Et tu, Brute?", quoth Julius, said to have disturbed with idle truth, an extremist?
1.Too messy
2.I would find a long composite anagram like this very unsatisfying to solve
13. Fashion boutique's just clothing gold for one who takes it to the limit
1.I don't much like 'clothing gold'
2.Clever anagram indicator. I don't quite get the surface meaning though.
3.Nice idea for the anagram, but the surface isn't too elegant.
14. Getting agitated about queue is just not English – one sticks it out to the end!
1.I haven't awarded too many fives recently but this is worthy
2.Excellent surface
3.Nice surface reading.
4.Excellent clue, easily the best in my opinion
5.Such an easy and light surface for such a difficult phrase to clue. Well done!
6.What a brilliant clue! Amongst the very best I've seen in the CCCWC.
15. He will stick to his beliefs about justice and our question without notice or become completely bemused.
1.A bit clumsy
2.Surface difficult to understand. Ideally needs a second anagram indicator for the material being subtracted
16. He’s determined to continue playing tuba? Oh, Jesus – Quit!
1.Either Jesus is playing the tuba, or this clue is a bit too irreverent for me.
2.I was about to give this points as quite amusing but then checked the anagram!
3.Refreshingly different tack to most and works really well.
4.You have an interloping h and an absent u.
5.Amusing surface, but a faulty anagram
6.Looked excellent at first but unfortunately the anagram doesn't work!
7.wld be great if anagram worked – no h and u left over
8.Beautiful surface – almost got my five points until I checked the anagram (a rogue H misplacing a U). Really feel for whoever this is!
9.ANOTHER faulty anagram (to go with with #1)
17. I come out only at end of game, as United attack is thwarted?
1.Good surface, but a rather inaccurate definition
2.I can't convince myself the whole clue is accurate as a definition
18. I persevere with no hint of trepidation, provoking quietus, just about!
1.Don't really see why it's an &lit … I persevere is ok for the def, so why suggest that all the rest is necessary or meaningful?
2.I wouldn't baulk at seeing quietus in an answer, but it screams "anagram" in a clue.
19. I refuse to pull out odd bits of arum – bouquet is just amazing!
1.Good misleading definition
2.Nice misleading definition, the anagram indicator seems a bit iffy to me
3.like the 'odd bits'
4.Would have scored higher with a stronger anagrind e.g. 'fantastic'
20. It's the French who use just about devious means to keep going to the end.
1.I don't like indirect anagrams, even partial ones.
2.The indirect anagram gets a thumbs down from me.
3... means one who keeps going to the end. wrong def
4.I'm not keen on anagram fodder being clued indirectly. Definition doesn't make it clear that a person is required.
21. Just a US boutique – smashing, radical!
1.a little unimaginative & obvious anagram
22. Just bouquets mixed up with odd bits of umami to be found at the bitter end?
1.definition is of
2.Surface is a little strange
23. Last hanger-on is best one perhaps, so is just sent a suitable bouquet
1.brave composite attempt, but did not work for me
2.This would be more of a chore than a pleasure to solve for me. I'm not sure 'perhaps' is enough to indicate the anagram
24. Law, sounding cute, encompasses a posh fight; is this one which goes on to the bitter end?
1.Qute sounds like cute? Hmm. Though my main gripe would be the unlikely surface.
2.What on earth is QUTE?
3.The homonym part just doesn't work for me I'm afraid
4.Homophone seems made up.
25. Le Pen no doubt revisited a boutique with just US outfits.
1.if revisited is the anagrind, what is outfits … or vice versa
2.Definition is a matter of opinion.
26. Le ———? With one, it's quite unusual to see job abandoned
1.Beautiful. Lovely work. Cinc points.
2.Brilliant – the best by a mile and deserving of more than 5 pts. A clue to win over even the most hardened comp-anagrophobic surely!
27. Maybe one going down with Titanic dancing subaqueous jitterbug after striking wretched berg
1.Amusing. Nice work.
2.“After wretched berg is struck” would avoid dangling participle.
3.Great image!
4.Jitterbug is post-1912 I think. Nice idea though. I was amazed to find 'subaqueous' in the dictionary.
5.Nice idea, with fair wordplay, but I struggle to accept the definition
6.Brilliant. I reckon this clue will be striking gold rather!
28. One being intransigent about Jesus quit United Reformed
1.another about jesus quit + U …. but ok
29. One with extreme views about Jesus quit order and took up leadership of Unitarians (15)
1.Nice idea but whereas "took" is fine for the surface, it would have to be "take" to make the wordplay work.
2.order or should it be ordered? don't like took up as used – wordplay sense sacrificed by making surface read ok.
30. Peculiarly just a US boutique; one that goes to the absolute limit
1.a little unimaginative & obvious anagram
31. Plum was such a believer in not giving up — being united in a bouquet is just fantastic
1."Plum was such" seems unnecessary.
33. Radical quit union job: "Use us at Revolution!"
1.anagram components a bit too contrived
34. Refurbish a US boutique just for French extremist
1.a little unimaginative & obvious anagram
36. Split jury throws suit out with Basque extremist
1.Good surface but I don't buy split=reduced by half
2.Nice and crisp – but I wasn't keen on the split = JU(ry) usage
37. Struggling, I just about half finished usquebaugh, but I won't give up
1.Nice, original idea. Once again I'm concerned about the alcohol intake of entrants!
38. This bitter-ender brusque, anti-left and right, just outrages
1.The surface reads like a selection of random words
2.can't see this as &lit. And is the anagrind meant to be the 'rages' bit of outrages? Sorry does not work for me.
3.Ideally needs to be 'anti's left and right' to work. Seems very unfair to have to split 'outrages' for the wordplay to work
39. Thoroughly overwhelmed, quit a Jumbo issue puzzle? Not moi!
1.does out=thoroughly? and isn't it overwhelmed BY the anagram
40. "To the end" is near perfection for a non-quitter (15)
1.You can't seriously use jusqu'au bout in the wordplay for jusqu'au boutiste!
2.Using the root of the word for part if the wordplay is pretty weak! 'Near' doesn't really indicate the final letter is removed.