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A clue to PARTRIDGE in a PEAR TREE (2 defs. + letter mixture).
13 comments were received for this competition (from 6 competitors, 0 others)
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Difficult to pick any outstanding entries, so I've distributed my points quite widely, but there were a lot of good ideas, and no absolute turkeys. It's good to see so many rising to the final challenge of 2011. |
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There are two basic requirements for a clue like this: 1)the minimum amount of extra verbiage (I attempted a clue with none) and 2) an unforced meaning, A clue such as 19 reads well but falls foul of criterion 1 and a clue such as 6 doesn't satisfy criterion 2. Clue 9 while making some sort of sense comes perilously close to satisfying neither criterion. For my winner I chose 33, though I might have liked 'red' qualified. Next,in order, came 11,20,23 and 10. All of these were economical and graphic. A tough challenge finding a bird compatible with a tree, and I thought the general standard was quite good. |
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It's clear that the rubric for this competition has been misunderstood – though what's not clear is quite who has misunderstood it! I almost took the rubric to say that the letter mixture's beginning or end must be taken from one of the words we were playing with (ELK/ITEM/KITE/ELM as per the given example) – until I saw that it had to be taken from a word in the clue. What the intention was, I don't know, but I felt I had to go with the letter of the law, so to speak. I've felt I've had to do the same with judging this contest, which I know might be unfair to the 20ish entries that seem to have misunderstood things – though it might balance things out if those people do the same.
Even so, I've found this a difficult competition to choose a clue for, and a difficult one to judge. There seemed little to judge between the better ones that fit my understanding of the rubric; equal points have been given to my top five. |
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I find it hard to know how to judge clues of this sort fairly, ie, what criteria should be used. I think it important that the definitions should be sound, but beyond that, rightly or wrongly, I have, within reason, given as much weight to surface as to brevity. It's slightly strange that GREBE in OAK should, as I see it, have produced the lion's share of the better clues. |
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4. Bold rebellion against whip, perhaps, from a nervy backbencher |
1. | More imaginative definition and surface than most, compensating for relatively large number of "wasted" letters |
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7. Customise law to make openings in Scotland flexible |
1. | An obscure usage, but the rest of the clue looks fine. |
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13. Giant bill – a Greek bother? |
1. | "bother" is slightly weak, but a good contemporary reference & admirable brevity |
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15. Greens' alert? Back Gore perhaps |
1. | The competition rules stipulated that the split must occur within the bird element, so this otherwise good clue had to be overlooked. |
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17. I scrambled egg and lemon |
1. | Would have scored more highly had I been fully convinced of "scrambled" as a def. of "mangled" |
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19. Legendary fraulein, rescued from obscurity by the zeal German brothers had. |
1. | Nice spot of bird/tree combination, but excessive padding. |
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23. Monster bill left me mega broke! |
1. | The best of the lot, by a considerable distance. |
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27. Pathetic urge to go after cheap fuel. |
1. | Good one. | 2. | V good letter mix, but much briefer "for" would give just as good a surface as "to go after". Not fully convinced by def. of peat. |
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