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A clue to FATHER-LASHER.
108 comments were received for this competition (from 10 competitors, 1 other)
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Comments on the competition
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Some strange surface stories here!
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With such an obscure word, it really is essential that the wordplay is precise and gettable and that the definition permits a straightforward dictionary check. Of the clues I felt worked, all were anagrams, and 15 was my pick. Many of the others didn't give the solver much chance.
 
Comments on the clues
1. A fresh halter prepared for bull-head (6-6)
1.Chambers defines 'bullhead' as a stupid person – which rather throws the surface sense of this clue.
2.Fair attempt but surface isn't quite convincing.
2. Adopt almost weird pool for swimmer
1.Why not just ‘adopt weir pool’? That would make more sense in both readings.
2.Not a fan of using swimmer to clue a type of fish. Adopt does not in my view = father.
3. All-weather fisher's at sea lacking dodgy wiles — to catch this?
1.The subtractive anagram is an entertaining challenge for the solver and gives a good surface sense.
2.Surface weak, and what are "dodgy wiles"?
4. Around Queenie, Flashheart’s wild as an animal
1.Animal too vague as a definition.
2.I think #11 is the fairer clue – but I like the story better here!
3.From 'animal' to the fish is a step. Clue 11 possibly improves on the idea.
5. Bizarre thief alarms her, not a man, a sea creature (6-6)
1.Wordplay doesn't quite work (not one man might be accurate). Would a sea-creature be a thief?
2.Difficult to picture this!
3.Findng a synonym of ‘a’, taking that from ‘man’, and then taking the remainder from the anagram is too convoluted.
4.a=i and m=man both inaccurate
6. Cast feather's harl for pig fish.
1.Five consecutive letters in clue repeated in answer!
2.Amusing use of specialist knowledge.
3.Anagram a very nice find.
4.I passed over this on first reading but it's nicely constructed
5.Feather's harl good anagram fodder but doubt this sea fish could be caught with a fly.
7. Catch me if you can? Rash hare left embarrassed!
1.Nice reference to the fable.
2.Definition and justification a little bit stretched, but very good all the same
3.Nice surface, but def. is weak.
8. Daddy sculpin falls in pursuit of Abba.
1.I think the solver would be floundering here in his hunt for the definition
2.Can't parse this, and surface is meaningless.
9. Fish flee harsh rat in panic
1.Anagram a bit dodgy
2.Surface wholly implausible
10. Fish thrash frantically with eel in heaps
1.Heaps better than yours? Don't you believe it.
2.Not all of them, but a fair few. Heaps is a synonym for a lot or even at a push far more, but not far.
11. Flashheart, at sea with Queenie and Blackadder, finally gets fish
1.This uses the idea better than clue 4, I think.
2.Rather weak surface, and I don't think Queenie or Flashheart were ever at sea!
12. Fouler weather has undone you ultimately with woe sadly undetected, Fish!
1.Much too convoluted and contrived a surface for me.
2.Difficult to put together mentally all the elements of this clue to get a surface reading.
13. Girl occupying fashionable flatshare – found it after trawling the net?
1.Good definition, but I don't think "girl" is a fair clue for 'her'.
2.Very nice but not sure about girl=her, or the pun in "fashionable"
3.Can't accept girl = her – what a pity it wasn't "Girl's"!
4.Not convinced by girl=her or ‘fashionable’. A good idea that doesn’t quite achieve its potential.
5.Very nearly — girl's would be better.
14. Health fears spread about source of rotten fish
1.Like the clue below, an excellent surface reading and this one avoids the redundant words.
2.Good idea well executed
15. Health fears start to reflect plastic found in fish
1.Good try and topical surface but let down by the "found in".
2.An impressive surface reading – the link-words 'found in' are perhaps redundant but essential for the clue to work – a shame.
3.Precise and topical. The top clue for me. (edit: Even more so after watching the last episode of Blue Planet 2!)
4.Good idea. I slightly preferred 14’s wording.
16. Her farts heal frenzied scorpion
1.Farts might make a bloater feel better but how do they 'heal' a scorpion?
2.Maybe fairer to have 'fish'instead of 'scorpion'?
3.Mildly scurrilous and the surface reading has little sense.
4.Surface makes little sense.
5.What does it mean?
6.Nonsense surface
17. Her sandwiches mostly don’t go bad when topped with greasy fish (6-6)
1.Rather verbose and ponderous.
2.As unappetising as it sounds…
18. Horny whore in Newfoundland providing nearly half rate with fresh tumble
1.I did a Google search to check that it really was a synonym – then had some explaining to do to my wife. (research, dear!)
2.The solver hunts for the definition (which Chambers doesn't 'yet' include even if it is in Wiki) but the surface reading is amusing.
3.Weak surface. Not keen on a noun as an anagram indicator.
19. Losing his head, he exposes himself on the Thames ? Queer fish !
1.Rather a step fro Father to Thames but the clue reads well.
2.The Thames is called ‘Father Thames’ but not just ‘Father’
20. Obese woman's left devilled hares for fish
1.Is the 's redundant?
21. Old man, sea, marlin? Essentially Hemingway's top novel on fish
1.The solver would have trouble finding the definition here.
2.I like this apart from the ? separating marlin from essentially.
3.A nice idea if a little too contrived
22. One exposing himself around topless swimmer is an odd fish.
1.Amusing surface reading.
23. One of two fish rears half the litter: male parent’s share left abandoned
1.Rather wordy and 'one of two fish' could be a definition of almost anything fishy.
2.Litter does not work as an anagrind.
24. Overweight, the man has a single slice of bacon wrapped around lean pig fish
1.Myxocephalus scorpius – generic name upper case initial, specific name ALWAYS lower case in Linnaean binomial taxonomy. Everyone knows that.
2.Fourteen words – rather too many, especially as we are being required to cut word length by most publications.
3.I can find no evidence for L = lean
4.Another nonsensical surface. Is "lean" acceptable for 'L'?
25. Pervert with twisted heart – a danger to small fry
1.I think something more is needed for this clue, as it does not currently show that flasher needs to surround ather.
2.From pervert to FLASHER is a big step. Clue 34's 'exhibitionist' is more appropriate but otherwise this clue works better.
3.A horrible image, and technically the containment is not indicated
4.Erroneous definition, and wordplay leads to FLASHERATHER.
5.It would have been a nice clue if 'with' had been replaced by a container like 'admitting' or some such
26. Priest abuser in deep waters (6-6)
1.Surface story good but not wholly convinced about getting to lasher from abuser and in deep waters is perhaps a touch vague as a definition?
2.I don't think 'in deep waters' is sufficient for the definition.
3.No idea how one could solve this
27. Priest before cat? Both could put it away.
1.Lacking any definition – "both could put it away" makes no sense as an attempt at one.
28. Priest given, when last here, Manx fish.
1.Original word play.
2."When" is superfluous.
29. Priest who beats young boys? Dirty old man hiding troubled heart
1.Quirky indeed, but it earns a wry smile.
2.But there is no definition here, just two lots of wordplay
30. Reverend Trasher with horny whore!(6,6)
1.I am not sure that this works. The solver hunts for the definition (which Chambers doesn't 'yet' include even if it is in Wiki).
2.Unsolvable and unpleasant
3.Impossible to solve
31. Sea scorpion female at her weir
1.I can't see a surface meaning here
2.Probably could have disguised the ‘at’ but otherwise neat
32. Something fishy is going on – old man (Hollywood royalty) is keeping quiet (6-6)
1.Rather ponderous wordplay but the surface sense is coherent.
2.Hollywood is not synonymous with LA
3.Cryptic syntax doesn't work with the two "is"'s. Liberties with punctuation, Hollywood=LA and royalty=ER also questionable.
33. Swimmer has left raft here at sea
1.Stretching it a bit with this anagram.
2.A plausible surface reading – nice!
3.I'm not a fan of using swimmer to mean fish. But otherwise well-constructed.
4.A tidy anagram. Definition could have been made more interesting I think (thrashing swimmer, maybe).
34. Swimmer, heart-broken exhibitionist outside
1.Clue 25 handles the same idea better, I think.
2.Surface makes little sense
35. The old man's the one flogging an odd-looking fish.
1.Rather a prosaic simple definition of each part of the word and the definition but it has good surface sense.
36. the rare flash of a sea scorpion
1.Beautifully succinct.
2.Two sets of four consecutive letters in clue repeated in answer.
3.No anagram indicator, and "of" superfluous.
4.Anagram needs to be indicated
5.Reads beautifully but doesn't follow the basics of cryptic cluing
37. The Rev.’s tier later provided a bite after a line-up (6-6)
1.Rather difficult to see the surface meaning of the clue.
2.Doubt this could be solved
3.Surface makes no sense.
38. Writhing after being cut by that woman's whip – it has a sting in the tail (6-6)
1.Fifteen words in a clue – rather too many, especially as we are being required to cut word length by most publications.
2.Defn a bit vague and in fact incorrect (it's not venomous)
39. Zip has broken on fisherman's fly in rejecting retired miller's thumb.
1.Rather difficult to make sense of the surface reading here.
2.Yet another nonsense surface.