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A clue to MAIDEN.
132 comments were received for this competition (from 17 competitors, 3 others)
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Comments on the competition
1.
Surprised not to find more Virgin clues. The usual crop of unsound clues, but there were a few good'uns, with 53 coming top — a nice join and a very plausible surface meaning.
2.
At the risk of seeming a straight-laced man, which I'm not, when it comes to cluing, I don't like clues which put women at a disadvantage, especially in a sexual context. It's very rare that men are put at a disadvantage. I wonder how many women are registered for this clue-writing competition?
3.
Although I have been registered here for ages, this is my first time voting in a competition. The "Voting help" page tells me that I can award 'merits' but does not tell me how to do so — and I am unable to figure out how.
4.
53. That's the winner right there.
5.
A plethora of riches this month. I had to share my points out among many clues, and ended up giving several merits to other deserving entries. 31 was my top scorer for its misleading, well-disguised surface.

Anything which just used "over" as the definition I thought was a little unimaginative and not a fair solve, so none of those got above a merit.
6.
clue 55, short and sweet
 
Comments on the clues
1. …… (6)
1.No definition.
2.2 better. Scorers wouldn't score this way; can be maiden without six dot balls.
3.Not a crossword clue in my opinion
4.Totally impossible to solve.
5.Far too obscure – and the dots in a maiden over are scored in two lines of three
6.Too obscure.
7.My favourite for its simplicity and cheekiness.
2. … twice over?
1.No definition.
2.Scorers wouldn't score this way; can be maiden without six dot balls.
3.Clever and neat
4.Better than 1 as it has a def. of sorts, but not that keen on the cryptic part.
5.Maybe, if answer was sibsib?
6.Much better than 1, but still unfair on non-cricket fans and all in all not my cup of tea, sorry
7.Too obscure.
3. A gemstone (diamond) fragment reflects in its original state.
1.Too convoluted for a word that offers a lot of options.
4. A nag? Yes and no
1.Also inaccurate – plenty of older horses never win!
5. Assertion from Edward he is backing winless horse
1.Nice idea but needs a ? at least.
6. Being unmarried, old Jock's chopper's unused.
1.Difficult to understand why bachelorhood might stop you using a chopper.
7. Critical to include comeback of Ed Balls?
1.Balls too vague as definition
2.Construction good, but I felt the MAIN wordplay could be better
3."Balls" as the definition is a bit too much of a stretch, I feel.
8. Daft idea, cutting Mechlin fringes for machine-made curtains.
1.The definition would be for the death rather than for the machine.
2.Surface and def too contrived
3.Def. doesn't work for me.
4.What?
5.'curtains' means death/end, not the instrument that causes it
9. Dame in disguise?
1.Nice idea, but 'disguise' can't come after anagram fodder.
2.Very neat and growing on me
3.Good one .
4.Neat.
10. Damsel bowled over
1.An extremely old pun
2.Like bowled over as a definition though not precise
11. Damsel is fantastic, inviting…I halt…almost (6)
1.Surface is rather clumsy
12. Debut match against India drained England's new openers (6)
1.Debut isn't an accurate definition for maiden
13. Elgar's Enigma: identification veiling person pictured within Variation XIII.
1.Definition is not clear enough, and "Elgar's" is superfluous to cryptic reading.
2.Too obscure for me, but good surface
3.A little specialised, and needs a ?
4.I knew that
14. First aid provided in restroom for some
1.Nice idea, but aid=AID is too direct for this word, I think.
15. First ever boundary-free century from Moeen secures boost for England
1.Welcome! I'd say it's unfair to take the boundaries from a three-letter word, and I don't think E = England is OK (E = English would be). Bu
2.Too complicated I fear.
3.This is too complicated I'm afraid. The cryptic work just to remove an O is too much, and E = English not England.
4.Yes, too complicated (and the syntax is off). Spare a thought for the solver…
5.Too many steps
6.Boundary-free century for O is too oblique, boundary-free ton would have worked. A merit for the idea, would've been worth points otherwise
7.A smooth surface reading
16. First flight North after Madeira turns, drops leaders of Red Arrows.
1.First flight = maiden flight, not maiden
17. First Lady
1.Simple but strong.
2.a maiden is not a lady – 19 copes with this
3.Too obvious as a clue for me to be in contention. I expect a lot of us considered this.
4.I'm surprised more people didn't go for this – it's simple but effective.
19. First lady in the making?
1.Unfortunately the same idea has been executed more effectively in 17 and 18
2.Better than 17 and 18
3.Better than 17/18 but def still a bit unconvincing
4.I just think this is less strong than 17 and 18 because of the extra words.
20. First man ate fish
1.'Ate' is in the wrong tense
2.past tense indicator is strange
21. First name changed to protect identity
1.Excellent surface reading
22. First one in denim pants
1.Not sure if pants is an anagrind.
23. Fish in the sea; one I let go
1.Not sure how this is &lit – I can't see anything in Chambers to support it
2.Nice idea, and clever wordplay but needs a ?
3.Nice construction. Could do with a question mark (and colon or dash for semi-colon)
4.Definition is too much of a stretch.
24. Form of name that secures identity?
1.Like it. Although I'd have thought it proves rather than secures.
26. Girl wanting unconventional sex on date finds me entertaining and new (6)
1.Amusing wordplay, but not convinced by def. of AI
2.This does not make much sense.
3.Container indication not English; def of AI unfair
4."Unconventional sex" for AI is a step too far for me.
27. Girl with a denim dress
1.Neat construction nicely plausible
2.'Dress' can't go after fodder.
3.Wordplay needs 'a denim to be dressed' or similar
4.What's the purpose of the "with" in the cryptic reading?
28. Graduate study that bags one a first?
1.Nice simple & convincing surface story
2.Good surface and wordplay
3.Can a maiden be a "first" as noun? And firsts are awarded for undergraduate not graduate study
4.Nice idea but maiden = first as an adjective, so a first doesn't quite work
5.I like this a lot, but worry whether the "study" is doing double work (Graduate study —> MA and study —> DEN).
29. Help crew onboard to find young girl
1.Cryptic grammar doesn't quite work
2.Is 'onboard' a transitive verb? If so it should be 'onboards'.
3.Container device doesn't work
30. Help hired by males is single woman (6)
1.Works perfectly, but a little uninspired.
31. I end flying on something a bit better than BA — Virgin
1.Very nice concealment
2.It made me laugh out loud – what is a crossword if not entertainment?
3.Slightly prefer the Virgin clue at 53 but still very good
4.Very original although not quite as slick as our other offering referencing the Branson Empire.
5.Nice!
32. I'm the ultimate in virtue and bowling?
1.Nice idea, but I'm not sure 'bowling' works as an anagrind
2.Not sure intransitive "bowling" is very fair as an anagram indicator, but certainly very clever and worth marks
3.Surely a maiden over is the opposite of ultimate in bowling?
4.Some of the anagram fodder is separate from the anagram indicator.
35. Male nurses plan short, uneventful deliveries (6)
1.Uneventful? The bowler might have taken a hat-trick!
2.Points for artful construction and neat def, but surface a little strange
36. Miss chaps coming round to help
1.Simple is sometimes best
37. Name I'd changed after getting married?
1.I like the idea, but this feels more like double-duty than semi-&lit. Worth a merit
2.For me this needs a dash after the wordplay to show that only part of the clue is doing &lit double duty
3.Neat.
40. Not all of team aid endgame, it's over with no score.
1.Best hidden clue
2.Nice definition – but surface a bit strained
3.A lot of "hidden" clues can be very obvious – the surface hides this one well.
41. Nothing over 499 in West perhaps and North
1.499 is not ID in Roman numerals; it is CDXCIX
2.499 = CDXCIX
42. Officialy the first virgin (6)
1.Misspelling!
2.At best meaningless, at worst a bit crude, and misspelt
43. Promiscuous independent dame going with men? Not me!
1.Excellent!
45. Run free in field? Sounds like Teresa's secret place
1.I like the cryptic definition, but spelling 'Theresa' wrong was a shame.
2.All-round clever clue. Well done
3.Witty allusion but not convinced by def or homophone
4.I am fretting about homophones of "May's den", which is really what you've clued.
46. Sadly it's the middle of September and I'm still waiting for my first win (6)
1.Oh dear! Alas, the superfluous "it's" means I'm not going to be able to help you on your way.
2.Something most of us can sympathise with, so points for that
3.I know the feeling!
49. She could make man die happy
1.Creepy sexual def. Not keen on happy as anag ind
50. Spinster: dame in distress? (6)
1.'Distress' would need to come before the fodder
51. States have little space for unsuccessful horse.
1.There are about 2500 permutations of 2 US State abbrevs
2.There are 50 US states & hundreds more worldwide.
3.I think just "states" is hardly fair to the solver when they have to find MA and ID.
52. The young girl is Irma – identity enclosed.
1.Cryptic grammar doesn't quite work
53. Virgin Media connection finally working.
1.Very good! Shame about the full stop, but this is a great clue.
2.One of those you wish you’d spotted yourself!
3.Neat surface, if a little bland
4.Best of the anagrams.
5.Excellent. Original and concise.
55. Wanting husband, I had men in a tizzy?
1.Do/did all maidens want husbands?!
56. Wild madder, in earth lacking colour, grown from a seed.
1.Indication of letters to remove is too indirect.
2.The subtracted anagram is both indirect and unindicated
57. Yes, if abandoned, I may end up a virgin
1.Surface reading very good