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A clue to LAUGHTER.
109 comments were received for this competition (from 17 competitors, 2 others)
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Comments on the competition
1.
The 'splitting sides' idea was very good. Clues with 'the best medicine' provided too obvious a definition. The use of 'slaughter' is an obvious one, with one clue exploiting it to maximum potential.
2.
Some rather cumbersome explanations! Some read rather like special pleading.

Asterix was a good find.

Clues using (S)LAUGHTER were predictabaly weak
 
Comments on the clues
1. 50 + Zero + tr
1.Is the definition 'tr'? I don't think that works…. Also, how is the 'er' clued?
2.This makes no sense at all!
3.I can't see a definition here.
4.Newbie? Tim Moorey's book 'How to Crack Cryptic Crosswords' is an excellent introduction and rich in examples. Good luck!
5.I don't think you've quite understood how cryptic clues work.
6.Is there a clue here?
7.If this is from a new competitor, I'd advise them to read up about how cryptic clues should work.
8.The wordplay in 1 leads to 'laughttr' and lacks a definition. If the idea of submitting a meaningless clue was an attempt to elicit laught
9.I understand L=50 and Zero = Aught, but how does "tr" yield "er" plus the definition?
10.What does this mean?
11.Hmmmm…
2. A leg hurt badly may have you in stitches?
1.The best of the 'a leg hurt' anagrams, although a little clumsy.
2.There isn't quite a definition of 'laughter' here.
3. After bears hug, perhaps convulsions.
1."Perhaps" isn't considered a valid anagram indicator in many quarters. "Possibly" is, however
2.'Bears' pun is good, but 'perhaps' doesn't really indicate an anagram.
4. After swallowing it tastes awful but it's the best medicine (8)
1.Nice construction, although, strictly speaking, 'but' is redundant.
2.Best of the yucky best medicines
3.I was trying to get this to work, but couldn't get the construction right – well done.
4.Nice misleading surface. I'm not so keen on 'but' as a join word.
5.Slight concern over 'but' as a link word, but still the best of the bunch.
7. Beer laced with sterilized milk? It is said to be the best medicine.
1.The wordplay works but the surface reading is rather absurd
2.I like the idea, but there are two indirect anagrams. One might be justifiable, but two feels unfair.
3.Needs something indicating that the UHT isn't all together.
9. British diver claiming first, finally, and giving an indication of happiness
1.It's quite hard to get a clue out of Laugher (I tried), but this one makes a decent job of it.
10. Broke a leg? Hurt? This could cheer you up! (8)
1.Needs a more interesting definition to make a great clue out of this anagram
11. Bumbling Laurel and Hardy get this dearly! (8)
1.The 'dearly in the surface reading jars somewhat, though it was required for the wordplay
2.A bit forced – what does it mean to get laughter dearly?
3.Excellent, 5 points.
4.Good idea, but 'dearly' doesn't quite work for me.
5.'dearly' doesn't quite work.
6.Unique and clever; worthy of full marks.
12. Cackling Coca-Cola? Ugh! Terrible ingredients.
1.This is a lovely hidden clue. I was not keen on 'cackling' though, as 'cackling coca-cola' makes no sense to me.
2.'Cackling' rather spoils the surface reading
3.Rather meaningless
4.Good hidden cryptic part but 'cackling is weak.
13. Concealing an exclamation of disgust, subsequently offers the best medicine?(8)
1.I think 4 pulls this one off more convincingly.
2.4 uses this idea a lot better.
14. Crack might cause this hammer to lose head
1.Nice use of 'crack' and 'hammer'
2.Took me a while to justify hammer=slaughter (i.e. thrash or defeat heavily)
3.Great misleading surface.
16. Derisive sound of female offspring dropping date for lameness, principally
1.'Female offspring' is rather clunky, otherwise a nice idea.
17. Display of ecstasy after anything that's splitting sides?
1.A bit laboured – not really ecstasy, and it's the person laughing (not the object of laughter) who splits their sides
2.Good effort but feel that 'splitting sides' not quite the same as 'side-splitting' or 'splitting one's sides'
18. Endless lethargy broken with university rag producing this?
1.Refreshingly different approach.
19. Expression of disgust during Jools' show? Could be canned?
1.Good theme, but a bit obscure reference?
21. Funny business? Hardly the mot juste if it's back to front!
1.Perhaps a bit too clever, and not sure funny business is a fair definition for the solver
2.Not sure if this is a clue to LAUGHTER or LAUGHTERS.
3.I've read this 20 times and still can't see how the cryptic element works.
22. Funny fifth instalment of Asterix the Gaul produces this?
1.I like this one for its originality, though the 'fifth instalment' jars slightly for the R
2.Nice though the fifth instalment device sticks out
3.The better of the Asterix clues.
24. Ha-ha ha! Get blue undressing for last masquerade
1.Dropping the second hyphen in 'ha-ha ha' really doesn't work
25. Heal gut strangely, take best medicine maybe? (8)
1.There's surely a better anag. indicator than 'strangely' in this context?
26. Horrid gruel that almost brings on gag reflex?
1.Hangs together nicely and gag reflex is a wonderful deceptive definition
2.Very good, original definition.
3.Great definition.
4.Neat misdirection "gag reflex"
5.Clever definition.
6.Great definition
7.Top five for sure.
8.Points for originality in definition; surface and anagram indicator less convincing.
28. Hurt a leg when dancing for fun (8)
1.It would have been better without 'when'
29. Hysterics after nurses' disgusting outburst
1.Although needed for the surface, the apostrophe is ungrammatical in the wordplay
2.The apostrophe is needed for the surface, but ruins the cryptic.
3.The apostrophe crashes the cryptic reading for me.
31. In bellylaugh: terrible cackle! (8)
1.It's a pity to have the word laughter in the clue
2.Use of 'laugh' in hidden element a bit weak.
3.Using bellylaugh to hide the first part of laughter is hardly very deceptive, sorry
4.Hiding 'laughter' in a word that uses 'laugh' in full is a bit too obvious.
5.Using 'bellylaugh' to hide 'laugh' is not very inspired.
6.Oh dear!
33. Lecturer in auditorium in search of amusement.
1.Well disguised.
2.In auditorium does not = sounds like.
36. Onset of listeria and child hasn’t died – it’s a great medicine
1.Surface rather distasteful
37. Product of eg a short turn beginning with Lenny Henry cracking up
1.Definition is split.
2.'Beginning with Lenny' doesn't really equal L.
38. Quality of play eventually leads to United goal, horribly conceded
1.Definition does not lead to answer.
2.A goal let in is conceded, but conceded does not mean let in generally. Quality of play/laughter and eventually/later similarly tenuous.
3.I like the surface reading; not 100% convinced by the definition.
4.Definition isn't very convincing. 'Let in' would work better than 'conceded' in the wordplay.
39. Result of line succeeding for audience?
1.Neat!
2.Very nice & lit. clue.
40. Saint prevented massacre – glee breaking out
1.Needs to be something like "saint's avoided massacre" to make sense
42. Someone's merry from the sound of it – drunken hug alert!
1.Very slick surface reading
2.Lovely!
45. Sound response to pulling a leg and getting hurt.
1.Pulling seems very iffy as anagram indicator, and cryptic instruction suggests (anagram of 'a leg') + (word for hurt)
2.'Getting' ruins the anagram.
46. Splitting sides at huge comic?
1.Points for shortest & most compact clue!
2.The 'huge' is a bit arbitrary in the surface, but a very nice clue
3.The phrase is a bit iffy, and will anyway point to 'Laughing'
47. Supposedly the best medicine? Then swallowing it's disgusting!
1.The most original of the best medicine clues
2.Best of the LA-UGH-TER clues.
49. The fifth of Asterix the Gaul's adventures — much hilarity ensues.
1.Great idea, but I prefer the surface of the 'other' Asterix clue submitted.
2.I don't think 'adventures' quite works as an anagrind
3.I prefer 22's handling of this idea.
50. The French expression for disgust – oddly their expression of joy (8)
1.Original approach, nicely constructed and misleading clue
51. The reaction to being tickled silly hurt a leg.
1.You sure are "pulling my leg" with that clue! Ha!Ha!
52. Then with disgusting sound of fun …
1.'With' doesn't do enough to indicate that UGH is contained.
2.'With' doesn't indicate containment to me.
53. Tumbling, hurt a leg, and it made my ribs ache (8)
1.Not really a definition of 'laughter'.
54. Urge halt to work in response to cracks?
1.Pleasing clue, one of the best
2.Great, well-hidden, definition.
3.A fine clue, both witty and misleading.
4.Neat surface and nicely misleading definition.
55. What a comedian wants at first, is the ultimate in jokes to make a killing
1.I can't see how this clue works. Where does the def. end and the wordplay start?
2.Nice idea but it just seems a bit clumpy. Worth a point though.
56. What gets her gut convulsing after old man stripped?
1.Original and witty, esp. since solver's first thought might well be nausea rather than laughter